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December 3, 2003 at 6:58 pm #24528
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fartyboyslim

the other day i was watching the pecial features on T3(Terminator 3) I saw that they were using cgi grafics for certain parts of the film. I wondered how easy it is and what is some good software to use for it.

December 3, 2003 at 8:30 pm #24538
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Mathew

3d studio max. Its the best software in my opiniun, but i sugest u try out maya and max. Maya is a good peice of software, and there is a few free versions out and its used in lots of big projects like final fantasy films etc.
Making 3d models can be a hell of a challenge. I am by no means an experianced modeler and ive been using max for ages. Dont expect to start up ur software and begin creating starwars style battles. Take time modeling and animating and read plenty of tutorials, i sugest:
http://www.3dlinks.com – A very good site for 3d uses, try out some of the tutorials and read some articles on different 3d products.
Hope this helps.

December 3, 2003 at 9:04 pm #24544
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MarkB

Another good tool is Animation Master, its relatively cheap and it supports easy characters and modeling so you can define a set of connections like an elbow and how it moves and then not have to worry about it bending the wrong direction when animating

December 3, 2003 at 11:37 pm #24565
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saw that they were using cgi grafics for certain parts of the film. I wondered how easy it is

even for the pro’s doing such things is not easy.
you can call it a challange.

As beginer in cgi you can only dream to make such visuals, no it’s not easy, even if you know your software very well it’s still a challange. :)

Good software?
i self use 3ds max 4.2, there are many tutorials for on the net, i think you might try first the challange to find these tutorials. :P
One day i found a great one, where you be taken on a lessons tour, it contains 101 lessons, it starts with telling you what actually 3d modeling is, it starts with telling you the power of a ‘box’, but i lost the link to that site, :evil (not joking, it’s true, to lazy to search for again)
But i think you should try first Blender 3D, there are some kind people in this forum who can work well with it.

Good luck!

December 4, 2003 at 12:02 am #24568
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Mathew

it starts with telling you the power of a ‘box’

NEVER underestimate the power of a box by the way :wink

December 4, 2003 at 12:09 am #24569
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Antiggo

the other day i was watching the pecial features on T3(Terminator 3) I saw that they were using cgi grafics for certain parts of the film. I wondered how easy it is and what is some good software to use for it.

As T mentioned above, as a begginer, you might start with Blender 3D first. I am going to make a begginers tutorial soon, it might help you then.

Of course Blender is not so powerful as 3D Studio Max, but it is a neat program. :)

-Antiggo

December 4, 2003 at 1:27 am #24575
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Cometgreen

The program doesn’t mean anything. I can give Maya or Softimage to a yocal, that doesn’t mean he’ll be able to pump out art. Granted, there are more features in something like 3DSMax than Blender, but since I doubt you will ever use raytracing (which you never need to) or advanced particle effects, Blender can produce the same quality work.

Anyway, if you want to go professional, don’t want to spend a lot of money, and want to get your software legally, then I would suggest http://www.dvgarage.com and its 3D Toolkit. But before ever spending any cash, download all the demos you can find and decide which program you are most comfortable with.

Cometgreen

December 4, 2003 at 1:31 am #24576
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Tim

I don’t know how to do any CGI, but i tried out blender a couple times, and its quite tricky, with tons of icons everywhere, quite confusing. You do want to read the tutorials first. If you don’t want to spend a penny on CGi programs, use Blender to start off with. If you want something perfessional, get 3D Max or Maya, which is about 400 bucks (is it?).
Making CGI effects is never easy. Takes years to perfect ‘em.

December 4, 2003 at 2:32 am #24583
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Alex W

Actually, I believe you will find the prices of those programs to be a little higher…

Maya pricing

3ds max pricing

You could, of course, find an older version on Ebay for quite a bit cheaper though.

That being said, I have been playing around with Blender lately and have found it an excellent place to start as previously stated. I would definitely suggest giving it a try. And as Comet said, download as many demos as possible to find out what works best for you.

-Alex

December 4, 2003 at 12:44 pm #24605
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Clemens1

“fartyboyslim” wrote: i was watching the pecial features on T3(Terminator 3) I saw that they were using cgi grafics for certain parts of

They already used it in
Terminator 2- Judgement Day
for the morphs of the T-1000

December 4, 2003 at 7:43 pm #24632
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“fartyboyslim” wrote: the other day i was watching the pecial features on T3(Terminator 3) I saw that they were using cgi grafics for certain parts of the film. I wondered how easy it is and what is some good software to use for it.

Beware: It is quite easy to become “stuck” on whatever program you first learn on. I started with Bryce 3 and then eventually migrated over to 3D Studio max as I ‘outgrew’ bryce. Lot’s of people start out with blender because it is free, but it has a totally alien interface that I cannot begin to get my head around (now that I’m relatively proficent at 3D max)

I would also recommend you start out simple and not get your expectations up too high, you won’t be re-creating the fight scene from Attack of the Clones within your first two years of working in 3D.

December 5, 2003 at 2:43 am #24656
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dandenmark

I have always wondered: Exactly how hard is it to animate 3D things? Do you move them frame by frame? Do you have to recreate each picture?

December 5, 2003 at 3:10 am #24658
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Tim

YOu would have to animate it like in a stop motion film, just abit differently. You have models, and a set, background, characters, and you can animate them together and choose how many frames you want it to be (like that i think). You dont’ need to recreate each frame

December 5, 2003 at 6:19 pm #24699
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Tervuren

I use truespace 6, by Caligari.

http://www.tervurendog.com/stylepoints.jpg
—Did this “creation” in a short period of time, its nice being able to kick something up in 3d for something on the internet. This picture, was a creation for this thread. http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=122826

I made the reflections to strong in my opinion, which makes the picture unclear.

Truespace 6, does animition as well. http://www.tervurendog.com/puppets.wmv

December 5, 2003 at 6:26 pm #24700
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Antiggo

Lot’s of people start out with blender because it is free, but it has a totally alien interface…

After Blender, 3D Studio Max looks to me like an alien creation with an alien interface. :lol:

-Antiggo

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