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July 22, 2003 at 1:41 pm #9512
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Stefan

Hello there!

Thanks everyone for checking out the chat yesterday. The problem is, unsurprisingly, Micro$oft. They decided not to support new Java versions, and consequently the Java Virtual Machine (the part of your browser that runs Java applets) only supports version 1.1, whereas my applet used 1.4.

There are 2 workarounds. One of them is easy for me, the other is easy for you. I would like to ask you to test them. Try solution 1 first, then proceed to solution 2. If possible, test both of them.

Solution 1
This solution uses the old Java compiler to produce code compatible with your browser. This might prove less stable, since it uses one of the first releases of Swing, which is used for the buttons and textfields and such. To test it, go to the following page:

http://www.stack.nl/~stefanvz/phpBB2/bfchat/bfchat11.html

Solution 2
This solution uses a more complicated version of the HTML code. Basically, it tells the browser to look for the Java plug-in and download it if needed. This ensures that Sun’s Virtual Machine is used, rather than Microsoft’s. Downside: the download is several megabytes large, and consequently not friendly to modem users. To test it, go to the following page:

http://www.stack.nl/~stefanvz/phpBB2/bfchat/bfchat.html

To remind you, this is what the chat looks like on my system:

http://www.stack.nl/~stefanvz/chatview.gif

Yours still on the job,

Stefan.

July 22, 2003 at 2:04 pm #9515
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Antiggo

I tryed second solution, and it downloaded Java 1.4.1 and now the chat works! it was somewhere 10 mb… BTW the chat looks cool!

July 22, 2003 at 2:19 pm #9517
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RevMen

Solution 1 was the same as yesterday, just a big empty grey box with a message about a class that can’t be loaded as I pass my mouse over.

Solution 2 had me download and install Java, and then I could see everything just fine.

July 22, 2003 at 2:28 pm #9519
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Stefan

Solution 1 is not a solution, as it still won’t work with the classical VM (correct me if I’m wrong).

Here’s a working version of Solution 1:
http://www.stack.nl/~stefanvz/phpBB2/bfchat/fchat11.html

Drawbacks:
* No support for internal HTML formatting, the reason to use Swing in the first place.
* A 2 MB download every time you start the applet (unless it is cached or something). Contrast this with the one-time 10 MB download of the plug-in.

Let me know what you think!

Stefan.

P.S. RevMen, could you please run ‘java -version’ on your server? The program on that side has less rigorous requirements (in fact, apart from the database stuff, it should run on 1.0), but I’d like to know what I’m up against.

July 22, 2003 at 2:36 pm #9520
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Antiggo

funny, but the working version of solution 1 did not worked… Only the second one… Strange…

July 22, 2003 at 2:39 pm #9521
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Bump500

“Antiggo” wrote: funny, but the working version of solution 1 did not worked… Only the second one… Strange…

I had to wait a little while before it loaded

July 22, 2003 at 2:43 pm #9523
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mrgraff

I had to wait a little while before it loaded

Same here (solution 2), but upon launching the second time, it started up immediately.

July 22, 2003 at 6:15 pm #9548
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Yolegoman

Well, crap, I had a message typed up here, but then the damn thing messed up, so I’ll just say that a ten meg dl sucks for modem users and I doubt anybody would do it.

Yolegoman

July 22, 2003 at 6:55 pm #9549
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Stefan

“Yolegoman” wrote: Well, crap, I had a message typed up here, but then the damn thing messed up, so I’ll just say that a ten meg dl sucks for modem users and I doubt anybody would do it.

Yolegoman

I agree, but consider that it’s only once. After this download, you’ll be able to use the brickfilms chat forever! Or at least, until you re-install your computer. I’ll run a poll on this. You can download it even now, if you like: you won’t have to do it again when the chat is done.

Stefan.

July 22, 2003 at 7:36 pm #9555
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Cometgreen

Well, I had installed the latest Java applet yesterday, so today both of those options work for me. It looks great!

Cometgreen

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