Concept: Espionage

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    Like Project: Adventure. We have multiple main characters so that many people can participate, yet the plot still revolves around one person.

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    Okay. Let me rephrase that: we’ll work on the characters one at a time. Character chart coming really, really soon, like ASAP.

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    I’ll go one character per post. I’m busy, but I want you all to know how I think characters should be.
    Jack Phoenix: The “James Bond” of the story. He’s a young spy whose youth gives him a little comedy relief, compared to an older, more experienced agent he’s stuck with on the field. He is assigned a mission that involves apprehending one of the world’s most wanted terrorists, a Russian named Yuri Federov, who has loyalty to Joseph Stalin, even though Stalin’s dead. Jack, no matter how inexperienced he is, is very loyal to his country and his mission and will do anything to accomplish it with as few international crisises as possible.
    More will come tomorrow.

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    Yuri Federov: The villain of the story. Yuri wants to annihilate America, for killing his brother in a previous hostage negotiation gone sour. He’s a very wealthy man, and he can afford loads of nuclear technology. He’s also very deadly using firearms. Federov will do what he can to make America a desolate continent.

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    That first scene is a BLATANT ripoff of the first scene of Casino Royale, straight down to the camera angles and the first line, only with loads of superfluous dialogue and an irrational suicide.

    You wanted blunt, you get it. If you want my advice, make the film yourself, because you seem to want total control. This isn’t a CP.

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    In starting a community project you must have four things: An basic idea, community support for the idea, community input to develop the idea, and the means to turn the idea into a finished project.

    Yes (although it has been developed beyond basic)
    No
    Third and fourth relies on the second. Without community support, you don’t have a community project.

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    “TheNoodle26″ wrote: That first scene is a BLATANT ripoff of the first scene of Casino Royale, only with loads of superfluous dialogue and an irrational suicide.

    It’s not a ripoff, just an homage. I’m a big fan of the movie, I wanted at least ONE scene to refer to it. And the ” loads of superfluous dialogue” is made to make it at least 5 minutes long, and it gets closer to the story. In Casino Royale, it explains Bond getting his 00 status. But it’s not a complete part of the story. In Concept: Espionage, sure, spy kills the mole in the agency. But it’s actually 100% story relevant. And the “irrational suicide” is NOT irrational because Boskov doesn’t want to serve a sentence in jail, or confirm he is a mole. Later in the story,(at least my version, depends if it’s changed) it is revealed Boskov was assigned to kill himself if anyone discovers he works for Federov.

    “TheNoodle26″ wrote: If you want my advice, make the film yourself, because you seem to want total control. This isn’t a CP.

    I’m trying by best to make it a CP. I just made a script for the first scene, that’s all. If anyone wants different names or a different script, then do it! Don’t just sit there! Geez louise! I don’t want total control, if you want different stuff, post it in here and everyone interested in this project will discuss it! If you want to be an animator, editor, producer, writer, or director, or God-knows-what-part-of-the-crew, I’ll see your skills in the job you want, and I’ll think about it! I’m giving every single one in this Godforsaken site, even those I have not got along with, to join what might be a good brickfilm once it’s done!

    Sorry for being a big jerk here in this post, but hey, I might as well post it when I’m ticked off.

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    Alex, I apologize, but you seem to misunderstand the purpose of the Community Project. A CP isn’t “I’ll have the entire movie planned out first and then post it and have other people critique it.”

    Let’s look at some examples of a good way to start a CP. Lech’s Super: he proposed to make a film about people just getting super powers. And then Mr.Lemons’s (previously) Project Adventure. He wanted to make a film about a guy that goes on an adventure.

    They all start out really small, and then through the community giving input on what they think will be good, the plot and characters develop.

    You even have every character finished. There’s going to be absolutely no community input in this project. Its ok to post some ideas, but you have every name, personality, all planned out. Giving input on an idea already so fleshed out isn’t as good as developing the idea through community input.

    From what I can tell, you basically just want your dream spy film to be made, so you’re asking us to do all the hard work.

    And TheNoodle: Sometimes I wish I could be as blunt as you :P

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    “badgerboy” wrote: Alex, I apologize, but you seem to misunderstand the purpose of the Community Project. A CP isn’t “I’ll have the entire movie planned out first and then post it and have other people critique it.”

    I don’t have the entire movie planned out. I made just the freaking first scene.

    “badgerboy” wrote: Let’s look at some examples of a good way to start a CP. Lech’s Super: he proposed to make a film about people just getting super powers. And then Mr.Lemons’s (previously) Project Adventure. He wanted to make a film about a guy that goes on an adventure.

    They all start out really small, and then through the community giving input on what they think will be good, the plot and characters develop.

    You even have every character finished. There’s going to be absolutely no community input in this project. Its ok to post some ideas, but you have every name, personality, all planned out. Giving input on an idea already so fleshed out isn’t as good as developing the idea through community input.

    I don’t have every character finished. Just the protagonist and antagonist. If people have different ideas, fine. Read the post above yours.

    “badgerboy” wrote: From what I can tell, you basically just want your dream spy film to be made, so you’re asking us to do all the hard work.

    It’s not a dream spy film, I’m not asking people to do the hard work, there’s an old saying I go by every stinking day of my life for the past several years: “If you want the job done right, you just have to do it yourself.” I’m allowing the community(including those I have not got along with) to have the chance to be involved in something that might turn out good.

    This whole post, in 15 words: I’m not closed to advice, but I’m trying to set you into the right direction.

    #386758 Reply
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    Okay, I had a chat with Alex and apparently we have a bit of misunderstanding so let me just clarify it for everyone.

    Alex is introducing a espionage film concept and what he has posted (plot, character and scene) is just an example of what we can do. It doesn’t mean he wants it to be THE plot, characters, scene in the actual film. It’s just an idea that can be revised and/or replaced by another.

    Let us redirect our attention to the plot first before coming up with character names and scenes.

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