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    stoneSkipper
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    Can anyone suggest sources or sites for music that is eligible for use in the HAT contest (i.e., not copyrighted..)?

    And while we’re discussing the topic, do TV networks purchase rights to use songs in promotions? Before most big televised sporting events, there is a video montage set to some currently popular song/soundtrack that paints the story for the upcoming game/event. Do they pay to use the song? The song isn’t the main attraction… the game is. s this how they get away with it?

    What about sports arenas? They play all kinds of pop music and “Jock Jams” type stuff. Even a Mastercard commercial w/ “Who Let the Dogs Out?” featured the arena employee buying music… Do they pay a fee?

    The HAT DVD will be showcasing our films, not the music. Does that make a difference if we site our sources? :wink

    Anyone a lawyer?

    -StoneSkipper

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    RevMen
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    Do they pay to use the song?

    Yes.

    There are many sources of music. If you’d like original music, you can contact one of several composers who hang around here. Lowweek has done much, great music work. The Janitor has offered to do music for people (and I know that he’s very capable, having heard a sneak preview of some of his upcoming stuff), and there are others, who I am sure would be happy to identify themselves. I will probably be willing to do some music, and I’ve already thrown up some generic music that I made specifically for the purpose of people using in their films.

    There are also many sources of copyright free music on the internet. Spend some time googling and you’ll probably find one.

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    David West
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    I don’t know were I got this idea, but I thought I’d ask anyway. Would a copyrighted song played backwards be acceptable, since it would be unrecognizable from the original song?

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    I heard that it’s not the music that’s copyrighted (since we won’t be showing the notes on the movies) but the performance of the music. So, if that is the case, it would be possible to play Star Wars music on your own instruments and use that, right?

    LGM
    EDIT: Not that I want to use Star Wars music . . . :wink

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    So, if that is the case, it would be possible to play Star Wars music on your own instruments and use that, right?

    Wrong. It’s not just the performance, it’s also the composition. John Williams will (or at least should) receive some royalties every time his music is used.

    Stefan.

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    TakeAMiracle
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    You can also check ebay for sets of royalty-free music on cd. I purchased a set of 6 a while back and that’s what I used for my last 3 films.

    Creel

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    Professional music is copyrighted in a handful of ways. First there’s the composition, as Stefan said. This is the actual music, notes and all that. Then there are the lyrics to a song, if there are any. (Did you know that Gene Roddenberry takes half the royalties for the opening music for the original Star Trek? He wrote some crappy lyrics, and even though they never get used they’re still considered part of the song). And then there’s the performance. Whatever artist performed the music will have a copyright on that particular instance of them playing the song. Finally there’s the recording itself. Whatever the engineers did to put the song to CD is subject to copyright.

    Other things people don’t usually understand:

    – It is permissible to play a song in a public gathering of some sort, like a sporting event or a band playing a cover song. In that case, whoever plays the music must pay royalties to the owner of the music. The amount paid is a set rate determined by the government (I think it’s so many $/minute).

    – It is not permissible to distribute another person’s work without permission. Whether or not you make any money doing it does not matter. The point is you’re providing recordings to people when they should be going to the original owner of the music to get them.

    – If you use a “sample” in your work, you are still required to obtain permission from the owner of the music.

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    Though you could be able to use the music when the composer is dead over 50 years, but play it yourself, since someone played the song too…

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    This place is excelent for picking up short sound loops that you can add together to make your own music. All of it non copywrited.

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    “RevMen” wrote: I will probably be willing to do some music, and I’ve already thrown up some generic music that I made specifically for the purpose of people using in their films.

    Rev,

    Where is the generic music located? I would like to check it out.

    Thanks,
    Creel

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