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    jay
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    Let me first apologize for dragging this issue up again and be clear that I am not looking for opinions on the issue, but rather for any facts or evidence of The Lego Company’s stance on brickfilms.

    I have tried writing to Tony of Spite Your Face about their experience and to The Lego Company in hope of some official word (beyond the brief copyright section on their web page) but I’ve had no response from either.

    So,

    1. Do any of the older members recall the details of the One debacle?

    2. Has anyone been in direct contact with the Lego company about the legalities of making, distributing and possibly even selling brickfilms?

    3. Does anyone know anyone else who has had any positive or negative feedback from The Lego Comany regarding a brickfilm?

    The reason I ask is that I’ve guessed at how long my pirate movie is going to take to complete (not to mention cost) and I don’t want to put that much work into something if I am seriously restricted as to what I can do with it later. I would much rather make it with Lego bricks, but I’m still at a point where I could switch to real puppets if I had to, although the cost and time involved will both increase dramatically.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    -j

    #128 Reply

    I’ve tried contacting Lego several times with legal regards, with no success. With copyright law, they could probably nab you if they wanted. I’ll take a look at some copyright law and see if I can find anything, and try to contact lego again. May have to send a real letter. And I’m researching US copyright. It is probably different for Canada, and international is most likley different too, but similar.

    LEGO Systems, Inc.
    555 Taylor Road
    P.O. Box 1600
    Enfield, CT 06083-1600
    U.S.A.
    (Just for my own refrence, so I know where I put it)

    And Jay, if you want to also contact them, here is the Canada address:

    LEGO Canada Inc.
    380 Markland Street
    Markham, Ontario
    Canada L6C 1T6

    UPDATE:
    Boy, I forgot how much I hate going trough code. I found one thing that we have all pretty much agreed on.

    US Code Title 17 Chapter 1 Sec. 106A:

    a) Rights of Attribution and Integrity. –

    Subject to section 107 and independent of the exclusive rights provided in section 106, the author of a work of visual art –

    (1)

    shall have the right –

    (A)

    to claim authorship of that work, and

    (B)

    to prevent the use of his or her name as the author of any work of visual art which he or she did not create;

    So, pretty much, don’t use the word Lego in any movies, names, or show it anywhere. We all knew that, but here is the backing. Havent found any more so far.

    #129 Reply

    I can’t answer any of those questions, but if there were lego DVDs I’d probably buy them.

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    Holgor
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    “zirkusaffe” wrote:
    I have tried writing to Tony of Spite Your Face about their experience and to The Lego Company in hope of some official word (beyond the brief copyright section on their web page) but I’ve had no response from either.

    So, you actually tried to contact the Lego company. If you now would write a second email, that you didn’t receive an answer and that you now think that using Lego bricks in your movies (even for commercial purposes) is legal – then they have to answer. If they still don’t answer, safe your mails so that you can prove that you tried to contact them for that legal/illegal reason.
    Danger: I have no idea of the law in the US / Canada, but I can’t see anything wrong about the above.

    Isn’t there some kind of FAQ on the Lego site?
    Keep us informed!

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    jay
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    For certain, I can assume that no response does not imply that it’s okay to just go ahead.

    At the From Bricks to Bothans forum they have an Ask Lego section, in which users post questions and an actual Lego representative replies at his discretion. He’s from Lego Direct, he may be a shortcut to getting a contact elsewhere who can give me an answer.

    I’m also going to try writing a real letter to the address for Lego Canada above and see what that gets me.

    I’d still love to hear what happened to SYF, if only to be aware of what exactly TLC was concerned about before I start talking to them.

    -j

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    Seeing as how they have a Steven Spielberg filmmaker kit, one would assume that the LEGO company would have anticipated that, at some point, a film using lego bricks and minifigs would eventually make its way onto the net.

    Now, whether or not you can actually make money from a brickfilm without incuring the legal wrath of LEGO :o is a different matter. As long as it is a hobby, I’m sure they have no problem with it.

    But if you are trying to make money by selling brickfilms, I offer this small piece of advice: get a job, it pays better. Leave brickfilming as a hobby!

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    “4096” wrote: Seeing as how they have a Steven Spielberg filmmaker kit, one would assume that the LEGO company would have anticipated that, at some point, a film using lego bricks and minifigs would eventually make its way onto the net.

    Now, whether or not you can actually make money from a brickfilm without incuring the legal wrath of LEGO :o is a different matter. As long as it is a hobby, I’m sure they have no problem with it.

    But if you are trying to make money by selling brickfilms, I offer this small piece of advice: get a job, it pays better. Leave brickfilming as a hobby!

    Amen to that Brother!

    This is a Hobby Zirkusaffe, don’t even bother making your film if you just want money off it! Panhandling pays better!

    Just ask yourself this: R U making Pirates so that you can get some extra cash, or are you making it because you have a story to tell and want to tell it!

    Yolegoman

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    Brian of Gep
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    Maybe we could exchange our animating services for legal representation?

    :P

    #145 Reply

    “Brian of Gep” wrote: Maybe we could exchange our animating services for legal representation?

    :P

    I work at a law office. Only about $150/hour at the cheapest :D

    #148 Reply
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    jay
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    On that whole selling issue; the idea isn’t to make millions and retire. I’m considering only a very modest fee to cover web hosting, CDs/DVDs and basic production costs.

    Of course, from the legal perspective the amount doesn’t matter. Once you start generating any sort of income it becomes an entirely different situation.

    I’ll let you know if I find out anything. Thanks for the input, guys.

    -j

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