Proposal – Minister of Brickfilming Welfare

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    You make a good argument Legoman. Let me answer a few of your points…

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: I’m going to be controversial and oppose this idea

    Good debate is not controversial. If all this thread does is make us think a bit more about our responsibilities, then it will have been worthwhile.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Firstly, it is currently the role of the minister of discussion to moderate all forums. Dividing the community into to two parts, brickfilming and non brickfilming, is bound to lead to more people with rose tinted nostalgia glasses wanting forums deleted and members who don’t spend as long in certain forums criticised.

    I think that is a leap of logic I can’t follow. I don’t see this as dividing the community into two parts at all. Just providing a little focus for moderators and sharing the load a bit.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Attempting to marshal all new “members” would invariable lead to sending PM’s to inactive accounts and generally wasting time trying to contact people who arn’t there.

    I’m not suggesting that. I’m suggesting a new forum as a landing point for new members. There would be nothing forcing them there at all, no entry criteria, just an optional friendly starting point.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Additionally, I would imagine that many new members would rather explore the entire community than be limited to one forum (for a set period or whatever you had in mind).

    I didn’t have any of that in mind. No walled garden or barrier to entry.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Thirdly, I doubt that you will find many experienced brickfilmers willing to be paired with new aspiring members.

    No harm in trying though, is there? You never know!

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: yet alone helping out an apprentice.

    I was thinking more along the lines of the term ‘Padawan’.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Finally, almost all of the work and tasks that your minister would be exclusively taking on are open to any existing member (whether in a position of authority or otherwise) to do themselves. We can all, and often do, all of the following anyway:

    True, but not often enough, regularly enough, or with any consistency. The particular one is giving good, friendly, constructive feedback on first films.

    “Legoman182182″ wrote: Additionally, other proposed plans (such as a new member forum, organised mentoring scheme etc) could be implemented without the need to create a new ministry by the minister of discussion.

    True, they could, and that might be the better way to go. At least we’re now having that debate.

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    ^Er, wait. Where did you get that we will be paired with aprentices? Or that new people would be limited as to where they go?

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    Rather than creating an entire new ministry, perhaps you can put pressure on the MoD to appoint a deputy to fulfil this duty.

    I’m hesitant to accept this idea because I don’t like the thought of electing someone to do what we all should be doing anyway.

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    OK. Then I’ll stand for MoD on this platform, and appoint a deputy to help me moderate the chat and the discussion forums of LD and Community if I win.

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    I like the ideas but I don’t see the need for a separate minister; most of these ideas don’t require additional “powers” in order to be carried out. (Electing a person to welcome people? Can’t anyone do this already? In my opinion, making an official position for this would sort of take away from the apparent authenticity of the welcoming.) As for reviewing newbie films in a positive light, stuff submitted to the directory should get this anyway; I know I always try to give a good explanation for rejections and balance it with positives and I believe that the majority of the review panel would do the same. The mentor system is a neat idea, but I don’t see how it could be feasible or more effective. As Comet said, it’s hard to make people stick to this and also new members often leave after a couple weeks anyway due to lack of attention span. I don’t see why it would be more effective to have one person deal with each new member than allowing for members to take advantage of the community’s collective knowledge through posting threads (though possibly in a newbie-oriented forum as you have suggested.) Additionally, I think most of the more experienced members probably get asked how-to questions through PMs a fair amount anyway; I receive a few of these a week (usually specific to how I did a particular thing in one of my own films) and I’m usually able to answer them without the need for the sender to create a thread about it.


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    Great posts CG and Smeagol. Do you mind if I answer these tonight, when I get home from work?

    In fact, CG, if you’re reading this, why don’t you exercise your mod powers and splice these last two posts into my election thread and lock this one? Then we can deal with the debate in one place.

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    I totally favor it.

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    All discussion has been moved to richardfrost’s campaign thread. :)


    Edit: Or it will once I figure out how to splice topics together. (I don’t have time right this second.)

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    I figured it would be easier to focus on the ideas presented here in this thread, and keep your MoD thread for general questions about the campaign. I know the two are closely linked, but given how many ideas you’ve presented, I think it’s easier to discuss them separately.

    And yes, by the way, I do mind. If I don’t get an answer sometime this hour, I’ll assume you concede the point and intend to back out of the election. GET ON IT!


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