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June 20, 2007 at 9:40 pm #297455
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richardfrost

“Watson” wrote: you don’t have a history of being a mod on our forums.

What new candidate would? You have to start somewhere. I have been a mod in the Contests forums since my appointment earlier this year.

“Watson” wrote: Additionally you’ve mentioned in the past that you “cannot commit to be on the site every day,” but rather about “two or three times a week.” There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but I believe it will make it very difficult for you to adequately moderate the forums.

I refer you to RevMen’s comments above.

“Watson” wrote: Your plan can still be implemented, but you don’t need to be MoD to make that happen. I’m certain that Cometgreen would be happy to give you the chance to do so in a deputy position, which would be much more fitting to your circumstances.

Equally, he could continue to do what he does as MY deputy. This would allow me to have overall responsibility for the tone of moderation.

Why don’t we let the electorate decide?

By the way, does your last comment imply you are not serious about your bid to be MoD. If so, have the grace to withdraw and make this a sensible election. If you are serious, then fine.

I am keen enough to carry out this role as deputy to the MoD, but I now think I would prefer to see who gets the public vote.

June 20, 2007 at 11:51 pm #297504
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Munzapoppa

I think this would be a great idea!!!

June 21, 2007 at 6:26 am #297567
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Smeagol

I liked your idea, it’s something I had never thought of; in many sites I’ve been to there are separate sections for advanced and beginners and this can be very effective.

June 21, 2007 at 8:05 am #297584
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“Richard” wrote: Being in overall charge of the forums, I feel it would be my duty to keep them clean and tidy. If you want to know how my moderating style works, look at the Official and Unofficial Contest forums, which I actively moderate. In fact I’m the only moderator. Briefly, I delete entire threads if necessary, move them if in the wrong place, and generally keep the place tidy

This is the one thing that interests me right now. Does this mean that you intend to heavily moderate the technical forums like Animation/Effects, Hardware/Software, and Sound? As in, complete uptight, need-to-be-accepted-before-posting kind of forum? Any new thread asking an old question is thrown away, any response that does not satisfactorily answer the question is deleted, that kind of thing. This kind of style makes perfect sense in the contest forums, as they exist solely to discuss contests, and so only practical contests need to be discussed.

But do you think that the technical forums need stronger moderation than we currently have? I’m not saying this is a bad thing or trying to trap you; I have toyed with the idea of laying the smackdown on these forums the last few months, having joined other forums that keep a tight leash on what is discussed. I think it can be beneficial and keep things focused, but I get caught up on a free speech attitude. I believe that, by keeping discussions relatively open, there’s a better chance of some new idea or technique being brought up, and it is better to keep things mellow. Your thoughts?

I apologize if that doesn’t make any sense, as I used all of my brain power in my previous post.

Cometgreen

June 21, 2007 at 8:30 am #297586
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Legoman182182

I think there is nothing wrong with the current moderator style. If it where to get the point where each post is evaluated and then removed if it is irreverent, then we will have become communist.

Not that that was what richard was suggesting or was even implying…

June 21, 2007 at 10:02 am #297606
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richardfrost

“Cometgreen” wrote: This is the one thing that interests me right now. Does this mean that you intend to heavily moderate the technical forums like Animation/Effects, Hardware/Software, and Sound? As in, complete uptight, need-to-be-accepted-before-posting kind of forum? Any new thread asking an old question is thrown away, any response that does not satisfactorily answer the question is deleted, that kind of thing. This kind of style makes perfect sense in the contest forums, as they exist solely to discuss contests, and so only practical contests need to be discussed.

But do you think that the technical forums need stronger moderation than we currently have?

Yes I do. Not in a completely uptight way. But, if someone starts a lightsaber thread, I would PM them a response saying why the thread was deleted and I would point them at an established lightsaber thread.

I think this technique makes it easier to find what you are looking for and eventually people would not need to create new threads.

There might even be a thread for people to ask ‘where’s the best (insert subject here) thread’, although this might discourage proper use of search.

I would also work with the Minister of Filming Resources to make the FAQ and resources more noob friendly, if necessary, by asking the noobs for feedback on why they couldn’t find what they were looking for.

June 21, 2007 at 10:12 am #297607
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Blunty

Mr frost receives my full and complete support. and my (by now) redundant holler of “seconded”.

June 21, 2007 at 12:08 pm #297614
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Night Owl

I like the idea of, if a newbie posts a rather dumb question, deleting the thread and PMing the newbie. So, as I said, I’d be happy to support you and be your deputy.

June 21, 2007 at 1:54 pm #297629
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“Night Owl” wrote: So, as I said, I’d be happy to support you and be your deputy.

I could just appoint anyone I like, and who wants to do it, as my deputy. I would, however, prefer it to be someone the community wants. So I’m likely to ask the runner up, should I be the winner, to do that role.

“Cometgreen” wrote: I think it can be beneficial and keep things focused, but I get caught up on a free speech attitude. I believe that, by keeping discussions relatively open, there’s a better chance of some new idea or technique being brought up, and it is better to keep things mellow.

Whilst I’m favour of free speech, I think the technical forums should remain focussed. The best example I can think of right now is the Flying Pickles thread, begun by Digital Dave. This thread has constantly been revisited and added to, and has by default become a great resource for people wanting to know how to make things fly.

I don’t see why this couldn’t work for light sabres, etc. etc.. I would delete superfluous threads and move the post into the relevant thread, corrected for spelling, grammer, punctuation and smilies, if there was a new question being asked. If not, I would simply point the poster at the relevant thread.

What should then happen is a virtuous circle, where the technical forums become cleaner, therefore easier to use, therefore less full of dross, therefore easier to manage.

June 22, 2007 at 1:29 am #297913
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chosen1

I second you.

June 22, 2007 at 1:33 am #297917
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Kyle

Got my vote.

June 22, 2007 at 7:02 am #297977
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June 24, 2007 at 6:47 pm #298815
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RP Hoogle

I think I might vote for you. I would also like to be the deputy if the runner up declines (unlikely though).

If you were to delete topics then PM them what would happen if you were away and a number of replies had been posted?

June 24, 2007 at 7:26 pm #298840
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Cometgreen

So long as a clear precedent is set, I assume other moderators can fill the same role when richard isn’t around.

However, it is true that threads can get replies quite quickly. Are you fine with removing these responses? Will you include the contents of the replies in your PM to the thread poster? What if someone spent quite a bit of time writing their reply?

Cometgreen

June 24, 2007 at 11:44 pm #298908
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richardfrost

If the reply was useful, it would get spliced onto the main thread. If there isn’t a suitable thread, then the original thread could remain, but might get edited for clarity and to remove any worthless responses.

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