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  • #251255
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    Cometgreen
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    It would be nice to get Rev’s take on rating priveleges, primarily concerning Schlockading’s original proposal. Obviously, who rates films affects the Minister of Film Ratings, but it is still an issue of the patron system, which is an issue of money, which is an issue that should be near and dear to RevMen.

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    #251257
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    saulgoode, quit stealing my thunder!!!

    I was actually planning on working with the minister of film ratings to implement a system very much like that.

    #251268
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    Night Owl
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    One practice I think is unfair is purposely giving films unrealistic ratings to bump down a score. If one person thinks a film deserves a nine, then there’s no reason why that nine has to be taken out of the average by giving a low rating to counter it. The same applies for bumping up ratings.

    #251284
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    There shouldn’t be absolute freedom in giving film ratings, because there has to be something that both the director and people viewing the films can base the ratings off of.

    This is starting to sound awfully familiar…

    Can you give an example of how people will access and view the ‘overall standard’? Just to make sure we aren’t offering the same thing.

    #251298
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    I think you should both be able to offer the same things. We don’t have a monopoly on ideas, but borrowing ideas from other candidates might be a bad move politically.

    In any case, I don’t think that area should be considered a stealing of ideas. One of the the notions I had going into this was that it would be one the Minister of Film Rating’s main jobs to clarify what the numbers meant. I think the idea of telling raters what a 5 or 7 or 9 means was more of a requirement for this job, rather than revelation had by one person.

    #251436
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    Schlockading
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    I can tell you, Ladon, that I haven’t read your thread in enough detail to be “stealing” ideas from you. What is yours like? The overall rating standard I am suggesting (which I emphasize will be decided on by vote) will be readily available for viewing on a simple webpage. Where a link to this page would be in still uncertain, but it would be simple to create one that outlined the basic guidelines for how to rate films. That is, not to limit the goal of my campaign – to allow freedom of rating preferences – but to tell people not to give purposely bad ratings, use extreme rating scales, etc. That’s basically what the overall rating standard will be – not anything too drastic.

    I don’t see what you mean by “revelation,” Watson. Could you elaborate a bit?

    #251478
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    There shouldn’t be absolute freedom in giving film ratings, because there has to be something that both the director and people viewing the films can base the ratings off of.

    Why can’t there be? Everyone will rate as they see fit, and most of the time, it will be pretty similar. But the few people that don’t rate a film in general accordance with the rest of the group will have their votes (along with each individual) shown to the public. If a film gets ratings which most people feel are undeserved, they will see that not everybody holds that opinion. The rogue voter can still rate, but no one will hold his vote in high esteem.

    To sum that up, I think the best way to deal with bad raters is to let them fall into their own trap. If they want to act that way, they’ll lose respect and their films might get poor ratings. I think most raters will be mature enough not to let this get between them, however. This would require that the individual votes go public, but I can see you wouldn’t approve of that.

    On the issue of flame wars, I can think of two examples. The first is TCOTY, which has already been discussed plenty in Ladon’s thread. The second is my own film, Stilts. In the 10 brick contest, I negatively reviewed a competitor’s film, and it wasn’t very constructive or wise of me to do so. We ended up in a little fight, and he gave Stilts a very low rating in the competition (it eventually placed 9th out of 20-something movies). I felt that the rating was out of place, but I came to learn to not give anybody a good reason to do that to me. I have come to see it as a good thing.

    And by the way, I don’t think you should reformat your entire system if you think that’s best. I’m just giving my opinion on how this position should be run, and it would be fine to end up agreeing to disagree.

    #251522
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    Sounds fine to me. But you’re saying that people’s ratings should be shown publicly because they’re bad? That doesn’t really make sense. There has to be some sort of order to it, or else the ratings system won’t change at all, and that’s the whole point my campaign is trying to get across.

    #251601
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    I’m saying each person’s individual ratings should be shown. That way, if my opinions don’t line up with Cometgreen because he likes The Fifth Element, something that he rates highly and no one else does I wouldn’t watch. But if my preferences are very similar to Dragoon, I would be more inclined to see a film that he gave a good rating.

    #251687
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    I see. In that case, maybe an idea I could implement would be an option where you could see who rated it, but the rater would have the option of showing their ratings or keeping them private. That way, the rater himself can decide instead of having a rule about it. It’s all about personal preference.

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