March 24, 2004 at 11:35 am #37456
…March 24, 2004 at 12:31 pm #37458
nice idea, but logistically unworkable.
sitcoms MUST have consistancy, something impossible achieve with a group of amature stop-mo film makers from all walks of life, from all over the globe, using all kinds of different setups, equipment and software. it is MUCH more than just having the “same props.”
let alone the fact that this kind of “group effort” (and I’m not just talking about here at brickfilms) is almost always a victim of people dragging their heels, not doing their part, not haing the time, or devotion, or simply not having it high enough in their priorities. I’ve seen group projects, grand in vision, fall apart time and time again.
save for the original directors projects from years ago.
I myself have been bittered on grop projects by being let down by others I thought I could rely on… this is why I’m pretty much a one man show these days.
evidenced enough by bthe entirity of this very “community project” forum. it’s been around for well over a year now, and (correct me if I missed it but) I’ve not seen one project even coming close to actually being completed.March 24, 2004 at 12:51 pm #37461
Batemulaco of PEMember
Sorry I am confused. Dewfilms do you suggest that different directors make separate episodes but they will still be scripted by the same talented script writers to maintain quality and consistency (consistency as in not too different)?March 24, 2004 at 1:05 pm #37464
evidenced enough by bthe entirity of this very “community project” forum. it’s been around for well over a year now, and (correct me if I missed it but) I’ve not seen one project even coming close to actually being completed.
It’s taking longer than expected, to be sure. The biggest problems seem to be coming from the top. We’re having problems coordinating the various departments. The script has been done for some time and Tom has been working hard getting the animators coordinated. Our team of animators are very motivated and will be doing their thing soon. Our sound guy seems to be having some problems but we are working to rectify that… .
This is the first project so it’s to be expected that we’d have bugs to work out.
It will be made- have no fear.
Also- check your calender because Jason still owned this site a year ago… Josh’s post announcing the Community Project Forum is dated June 18th.
I like the idea, it definitely has potential. What’s needed is a workable plan. Blunt’s right about how difficult this is but it’s certainly not impossible. He’s wrong however about “sitcoms MUST have consistancy, something impossible achieve with a group of amature stop-mo film makers from all walks of life, from all over the globe, using all kinds of different setups, equipment and software. it is MUCH more than just having the same props “.
I think our diversity is a strength, not a weakness, and a sitcom script in REAL LIFE is rarely written by a single person, nor produced by a single person. They are usually made by a team of writers and producers, from all walks of life, sometimes from all over the globe, drawing from all sorts of experiences. Very much like what we have here.
My number one suggestion to make such a plan workable:
Use a common set. One of our biggest hurdles has been to find minifig heads and torsos that all the animators had in common. A way around this would be to say “all minifigs involved must come from set #xxxx. ” If there is going to be a common set then the pieces for it should also come form one or two LEGO sets to make the pieces easy to find. Of course, as a sitcom, each episode could have a “special guest star”.
I’m sure Tom and the other members from our Project Team can come up with more suggestions.March 24, 2004 at 1:12 pm #37465
Why not write the sitcom so as to make it possible for the animators to have different sets? Have 4 or 5 settings that are used in just about every episode; each animator to animate all that goes on in that setting. That way the only common item would be figs.
LoganMarch 24, 2004 at 1:27 pm #37467
I like the idea, but I would like to see how far it goes in preparation before I commit to anything.
-KGMarch 24, 2004 at 9:17 pm #37510
…March 24, 2004 at 10:36 pm #37514
Really I’m interested in this idea, I’d love to see it get off the ground. I’ve thought about how to go about organizing the process a bit. First of all, the script team would have to be assembled, obviously. Anyone applying would have to have some kind of experience writing comedy to be accepted. After all, humor is what carries sitcoms along. After the writing team is in place, they should hash out ideas for the theme of the series, the characters, their personalities, their environment, etc. They should also write brief back stories for each of the characters. After that, they would write a few episodes, perhaps four.
Then finding animators would take place, while the dialog is recorded. In most sitcoms, there are only a handful of basic sets in which the show takes place. In “Home Improvement” for example, we have the Taylor’s living room/kitchen, their backyard, the garage, and the set of Tool Time. Of course there are more sets, but most episodes take place in those four. One animator would build one set, and animate all of the scenes taking place there for all four episodes written. I know, that sounds like a lot of work at first, but it’s really not that bad. Say each episode is five minutes long, and each set is featured for approximately one minute. The animator would only have to animate four minutes total. Not bad. I’m not trying to take over the idea, or out-step my boundaries, but I’ve simply suggested an idea of how the production dynamics would work.
About finding common mini-fig heads. That was a problem on the current (time travel, forgive the pun) CP. One thing we tried in the CP was to pick heads from common sets, like Star Wars, but the some animators didn’t have the correct sets. It was a good idea, and would work in some cases, but not here. I think the easiest way to go about finding heads and torsos that everyone has would be to ask them to buy one rather inexpensive set and use parts from that. In the end, we asked everyone to buy a certain head (if they already didn’t have it) for one of the two main characters, and use a standard mini-fig smile for the other character. No one had any major quibbles with that.
I would be very happy to be on the script team if this idea is used! I wouldn’t mind animating either.
EDIT: Maybe only the editing should be done the week the episode is released, instead of doing everything that week. That would take pressure off of everyone, and the show could still be released weekly.March 24, 2004 at 10:45 pm #37515
How about the premise be about two friends who make stop motion films for a major toy company, and their wacky New Jersey adventures?
-KGMarch 25, 2004 at 2:01 am #37550
To solve the set problem:
Every episode could be in a different setting. Like in one episode the main character could be in a house, than the next time he can be in a post office or somthing. Or if the story was about some person lost in space or somthing, each episode would be a different planet or somthing. In the Reboot tv series, when Matrix, his friend (forgot her name), and Friskit get lost in the internet, they travel to different mainframes each episode my The Games, so there is always a different setting. All you would have to do is get the same main characters which you could get from a easy to get set. This idea is more of a Mini Series type of thing though.
I think sitcoms are filmed a couple weeks earlier aren’t they?
Edit: I forgot to say, I would be able to help work on the script. I don’t have much experiance writing a comedy, but I would be glad to help out on anything like character development and plots.