Sony Digital8 or MiniDV?

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May 10, 2003 at 9:38 pm #2619
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strider

Hey all. Just wanted to get any ideas on which would be the better buy. The Digital8 DCRTRV350 or the MiniDV DCR-TPV19. Thanks.

May 10, 2003 at 10:00 pm #2621
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“strider” wrote: Hey all. Just wanted to get any ideas on which would be the better buy. The Digital8 DCRTRV350 or the MiniDV DCR-TPV19. Thanks.

I don’t know about the perticular model, but MiniDV cameras are usually better. Plus, they use compact tapes.

May 10, 2003 at 11:11 pm #2623
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IndyA

well is it for animation..?
IndyA

May 11, 2003 at 2:11 am #2632
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“IndyA” wrote: well is it for animation..?
IndyA

Of course! Camcorders have the “take picture” button. Some are fortunate to have a remote to prevent bumping the camera.

May 11, 2003 at 2:11 am #2633
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Oops! Double Post.

May 11, 2003 at 2:27 am #2635
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By personal experience camcorders take kind of a “sheeted picture” somtimes over the frame. The quality in a camcorder is not as crisp as a logitech quick cam pro 4000 (or other good webcam) because of how it is linked. The “sheeted picture” i mean that it puts a kind of smear tint on the animation…..i did a film with a camcorder….for a school project….if you want to see the difrence look here…the project was animation…..
i will upload the files soon….——————
i dont have them right now…
IndyA

May 11, 2003 at 2:37 am #2636
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Brian of Gep

Off topic, but Bump500…

When you’re replying to the post right before yours,
you don’t need to use the quote function.

May 11, 2003 at 5:19 pm #2659
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LowweeK

There have been numerous topics about the advantages and drawbacks of miniDV camcorders, in this forum and the old one too.

I just wanted to point out a thing about Sony. I don’t buy Sony products, because I don’t like their limited compatibility. For memory, upgrades, accesories, whatever the product (camcorders, photo, computers, hifi systems,…), the options are always only Sony compatible and thus two times more expensive. I like to have the possibility to choose the brand of my RAM, lens, tape,… This has to be taken on considerations when buying a hi-tech product. Just my two cents.

May 12, 2003 at 4:17 am #2690
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Lowweek, I couldnt agree with you more. I have a Sony Clie PDA that is useless. It seemed like it had so much potential, then they discontinued it shortly after its launch(and NEVER GAVE ME MY FREAKIN WI-FI CARD!!). As for the cameras, make sure you look at exactly the options for still frames. Some of them take 6 seconds of video to represent one still frame. This sucks as it takes up TONS of memory and editing time.

May 12, 2003 at 6:32 am #2694
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There are some things that speak in favour of Sony.

First, there’s quality. Sony MiniDV cameras feature Carl Zeiss lenses, and it doesn’t get much better than that in the class of cameras we’re talking about.

Second, JVC puts a line in their manuals where they warn only to use JVC tapes, as other brands might harm the camera. Sony doesn’t do that.

Third, there’s clone-brand memorysticks around, so it’s not as bad as it seems when it comes to accessories.

Fourth, Sony cameras come with a wide range of cool features, and some models (unfortunately not as many in the new range as in the old range) come with a manual focus ring, which is – as far as I can see – essential for the animator.

Strider, as for your question:
DCR-TRV350 and DCR-TRV19

As for the focus capabilities:
MiniDV: Focusing: Full Range Auto/Manual (Touch Panel)
Digital8: Focusing: Full Range Auto/Manual (Dial)

I don’t think a touch-screen will be as accurate as a dial. Furthermore, resolution for both cameras will be 720×512 (or something like that – not too sure about the actual numbers).

Another difference: the DCR-TRV350 has 20x optical zoom, compared to the mere 10x for the DCR-TRV19.

I’d advise you to buy such a thing in an actual shop, and ask the salesman to demonstrate it or let you fool around with it for a while. That’s the only way to get a good idea of the camera’s possibilities and qualities, especially if it’s your first camera. Decide what you will want to use it for (the above points are especially important for animation), and which camera best suits your needs and, of course, your budget.

Yours facing a similar question,

Stefan.

May 12, 2003 at 8:57 pm #2724
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strider

Thanks for all your input. I went ahead and got the sony dvr-trc19 again, thanks.

May 12, 2003 at 9:02 pm #2728
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Stefan

All right! Now, please return the favour by relating to us your experiences with the camera!

Personally, I’d have gone for the other one (as you could probably deduce from my previous post), so I’d love to hear what the MiniDV one has to offer.

Stefan.

May 12, 2003 at 9:27 pm #2732
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well, I pray you dont have a reason to call their tech support. unless, of course, you are Indian and can understand what the hell they are saying. we used a sony cam for ahwile but because of the 6 seconds of film per “photo”(the computer teacher mistook “photo” for “frame” when she bought it. then when it broke and she bought a Cannon I think she did it again) we couldnt stand it. good luck, hopefully you have better luck than we did

May 13, 2003 at 10:00 pm #2839
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Go for a Canon. Why? Manual white balance. That is a life saver, trust me.

The Sony cams have manual white balance, it’s just not activated, so you’d have to hack into the cam to get it to work. But between the two you listed, probably miniDV, because the cams are smaller than Digital 8. Other than that, there’s little difference to the quality between the two types.

EDIT: Btw, wandrer, the MiniDV has a 1/4inch CCD, which makes the miniDV even more appealing. The bigger the CCD size, the better it is with low light. Plus, it has higher resolution.

Cometgreen

May 13, 2003 at 10:15 pm #2842
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NewLegoCinema

Ballence is solved with a tripod.Easily. :o
It only moves when I bump into it. 8)

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