December 21, 2007 at 1:58 am #355175
I wouldn’t be opposed to a review panel rating system, though I agree that it may not be worth it given that many films might only receive one or two ratings with it. However, since it would have been implemented after the new rubric system, and only RP members would be able to use it, I think these ratings would be much more accurate.December 21, 2007 at 9:53 am #355214
Perhaps a Staff rubric, which I think may have been one of my original ideas from way back when. That way the admin and ministers can rate in it as well. I’m sure that publicly elected officials are responsible enough to rate effectively.
Well, if I’m re-elected, I will hold a poll to see if this is something that everyone wants. It would be foolish to do it now and interfere with the campaigns.
-LadonDecember 23, 2007 at 5:40 pm #355875
A point that doesn’t seem to have been brought up yet is the idea of letting more people rate things. This has been an issue in past elections, I think, so I’m bringing it up again for consideration. You say that opinions are different from ratings, so would it be too hard to let the general Brickfilms community rate films as well? Smeagol said that just because someone’s a patron doesn’t mean they can rate a film well. There needs to be a system where everyone can rate a film if they want, not just paying patrons and higher officials on the site like the Review Panel. The majority of people who watch these films do not hold those types of positions. Sure, there would be more potential sabotage, but there should also be a system of banning saboteurs. Are you for/against this? Would it be too difficult to implement this type of system?December 23, 2007 at 9:08 pm #355924
Well, you’re right, this did come up before.
My current stance on this is that the ratings system we have now should be reserved for patrons, as that is one of the main draws for people to donate money to the site. (they are not ‘paying to be patrons’ or ‘paying to rate films’ as Brianfast seems to imply)
However, I think it was suggested before that a less advanced ratings system should be implemented for the non-patrons. It was equated to a ‘thumbs up – thumbs down’ system that could give a film a rating similar to that on RottenTomatoes.com. The film would be given a percentage based on the + or – voted by any user.
If my memory is intact, that is where we stopped discussing it, because I forgot to start a thread outside of the elections to continue the discussion. I’ll be sure to do that this time if I’m re-elected, because these sorts of things shouldn’t just be discussed around elections!
-LadonDecember 24, 2007 at 2:31 am #356014
Well, either way, what you’ve said sounds good. I failed to realize that ratings films is one of the main perks for patronage. A Rotten Tomatoes system would be easy and would also give everyone a chance to see a more general opinion about the film from the community. Thanks for the explanation.December 24, 2007 at 8:23 am #356058
I only just realised it myself, the two perks of being a patron are ratings and the cool bar over your name in the forums.
I’ll see if that Rotten Tomatoes idea would work, so there will be an update on that soon.
-LadonDecember 24, 2007 at 8:48 am #356063
Update: Soon enough for you?
The supplementary simplified ratings system is completely possible apparently, so all I need to know is how many people would like this. I am not going to use it as a basis for my platform, because my platform has always been to give people what they want, or what they need. If enough people would like it, I will gladly make it happen for you.
-LadonDecember 24, 2007 at 8:54 am #356065
Yeah, that could be a good idea. I believe in his campaign for minister of film ratings, Saulgoode suggested abolishing the current ratings system altogether and replacing it with something like that but nobody wanted to entirely eliminate the current system. I was going to suggest the same idea you’ve come up with (I visit rottentomatoes regularly) so I approve of the idea.
-SmeagolDecember 24, 2007 at 8:07 pm #356201
So here is my interpretation of latest changes
– Non patrons can vote rotten tomatoes style (not much depth I’m assuming)
– Patrons and review panel members are still rating films by your rubric
Ladon, as long as patrons (especially 15 or 24 FPS) patrons are forced to rate by your rubric they are donating money and the only additional feature they receive is being able to give your style of ratings; they are essentially paying to rate movies according to YOUR standards. Not what they actually think the movie deserves.December 24, 2007 at 9:44 pm #356237
Yes, you have interpreted my changes correctly.
they are essentially paying to rate movies according to YOUR standards. Not what they actually think the movie deserves.
Wow, all this time and you still don’t understand the point of the rubric. And I think you’re the only one!
The rubric is designed to ensure that everyone knows what they are rating on. There is still room for opinion, more than enough. But before the rubric, people were essentially rating according to whatever numbers they liked. For example, if a film was average, they would give it a 7! Why a 7? Because they figured that was average. Another person might have thought that a 4 was average! Another would have gone with a 5. There was no baseline for the final data, and so there was actually no way to tell what the rating meant.
With the rubric, you can actually look at what you’re ratings mean, and choose them accordingly. Yes, you can still trash a film if you’re that irritated by it. But at least now you know how
If you still don’t understand the rubric, then perhaps you shouldn’t be running to remove it…
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