August 29, 2005 at 11:31 pm #127319
Oh crap, I deleated about half of the films, now I have to re-download them…
And my film was made with B-Squared. Can’t take all the credit can I?August 30, 2005 at 12:03 am #127330
David West really is too stict with this. one frame where its not there JESUS.Also the 22 films will not produce a fair vote because its too many to remember everything. I think this is the last contest that DW should run because this contest really wasn’t run too well. I mean how could someone cheat like that.August 30, 2005 at 12:21 am #127333
I have a passing interested in voting methods, and I thought this might be of interest to some.
It appears the voting method used here is the “Borda” method as defined at condorcet.org. The linked website is promoting the Condorcet winner and specifically the Ranked Pairs method. (condorcet.org’s list of voting methods).
I’m not sure how the multiple categories of voting fits in however… Any math people have some insight?
Of course, the dynamics of a brickfilm vote are much different from a political vote; I’m not expressing an opinion on the voting method used in this contest. It would be interesting howerver, to see if different tabulation methods come up with different winners. Some software to do just that is listed at vote.sf.netAugust 30, 2005 at 1:21 am #127344
There are over 10 disqualified entries, and there are 20 entries that did not get disqualified. I think Proto’s should be fine.. I know proto would never cheat, anyways.August 30, 2005 at 2:20 am #127354
Proto is a cheater.
Seriously, I encourage David to stand by the decisions he has already made. Making wishy-washy changes halfway through is never really a good idea.August 30, 2005 at 2:38 am #127355
“Rainsford” wrote: Proto is a cheater.
Seriously, I encourage David to stand by the decisions he has already made. Making wishy-washy changes halfway through is never really a good idea.
-StephenAugust 30, 2005 at 2:43 am #127356
Contrary to Brianfast’s careless and callous remark, David has done an excellent job of running this contest, and it shows in the amount of support and success it has achieved.
I would also like to point out that David is NOT being heartless or overly strict with his decision. He really struggled with the decision to disqualify the entries that didn’t conform to the rules. In the end, though he would’ve liked to have allowed them, he decided it best not to, in order prevent there from being any complaints in the event that one of these entries might win.
If an entry that did not meet the clearly defined specifications were to win the contest, what would other entrants who had put significant effort into keeping with contest requirements think?August 30, 2005 at 3:35 am #127362
“brianfast” wrote: David West really is too stict with this. one frame where its not there JESUS.
That was the rule, it was there before any of us started animating.
All you had to do was not move the camera.
Also the 22 films will not produce a fair vote because its too many to remember everything.
:roll take notes, score the films for each category, add up your scores and rank the films. It’s not really rocket science.
I think this is the last contest that DW should run because this contest really wasn’t run too well. I mean how could someone cheat like that.
I disagree, I think it’s one of the best ideas and the most organized non-official contest that I have seen since I have been a member.
There has been 0 problems with the contest. If someone doesnt like the rules then they dont have to enter, if you think its too hard to vote, then dont vote.
The point it to have fun. Not only did I have fun animating my stupid ideas that are only funny to me, I had a blast watching all the films. I’ll be watching them a couple more times to vote.
We get maybe 1-3 good films a week to watch, much less 20+ films in one day! Thats awesome.
EDIT: there is actually another film that should have been disqualified and wasnt so I can confirm the rules are not that strict.August 30, 2005 at 3:44 am #127365
“Dan” wrote: I disagree, I think it’s one of the best ideas and the most organized non-official contest that I have seen since I have been a member.
Actually it was a WONDERFUL IDEA and it was a lot of fun.
(Ok, it was NOS that had the original deadline idea but hey…)
A hearty THANKS needs to go to David West for taking this on. Any contest management has to be a nightmare with all the differing opinions, questions, etc.
-StephenAugust 30, 2005 at 4:44 am #127370
The voting guidelines have been updated to include a date when all ballots must be turned in, and it now tells entrants NOT to vote for their own film.
I’m not being strict, I’m following the rules. It really is a shame that so many films were disqualified, but what should I do? Let in some, but not others? Let them all in? Either way, letting disqualified entries back in is just opening a can of worms. What if one of the disqualified films won? I guarantee you someone would come to me whining. There were 8 disqualified entries in all. Here is a list of them, and the reason why:
Super Cameraman – Wrong mod element
Skudmunky – Late entry
Protowrx -Mod element blocked from view at times
Strange Little People – WMV file
CJ Studios – WMV file
Julian Chelo – Mod element blocked from view at times
3lb4rt0 – Too short, 30 seconds of animation
Obviously, protowrx didn’t cheat, and neither did Julian Chelo. But if I let them in for breaking an extremely clear rule, then shouldn’t I let the people who submitted the wrong format back in, because that rule wasn’t nearly as heavily emphasized as the mod element? Like I said, allowing some entries but not others only creates more problems.
Dan, I’m curious what entry that is. There are several films with very subtle mod elements, there is a good chance the mod element IS there, its just very well hidden.