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January 13, 2008 at 2:36 am #361035
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Masterpieces of Brickfilming (MoB) has finally concluded (congratulations to the winners and thanks to all involved) and I’m debating whether holding a second MoB is the right course of action or to try something different. Thirty-three filmmakers expressed interest in competing with three finishing their films by the 15-month deadline. While participation in MoB far exceeded my expectation (I expected about 10-12), the final number of films was slightly below my initial estimate. For whatever reason 91% of those who declared intent did not submit a film, I hope they all at least found the experience beneficial.

For a reprise, I have considered simply running the contest again with a similar, though likely longer given the present date, deadline. I’ve also considered simply funding the production of a single film and offering my assistance in as much of a capacity as I can. The former would theoretically be of greater benefit to more filmmakers while the second would be a more intensive benefit to a smaller number.

I thought I’d open a discussion on the matter to gauge the community’s opinion. So, discuss away….

-J

January 13, 2008 at 2:55 am #361040
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mmm. I don’t know. I would have joined the contest, but by the time i got up and on the site, the contest was almost over. I doubt though that you would get much better results a second time around than the first time. It is a huge thing. Any way, I just think maybe you should find out all your options before you decide. Good Luck, I hope you figure something out, and I’ll be back to see what happened. :)

January 13, 2008 at 3:08 am #361045
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I think that some people have probably learned from this not to procrastinate simply because the deadline initially is very far away. For my part I wrote two different screenplays for planned MoB entries but ended up abandoning the first because I realized that by the point I had the screenplay where I wanted it I didn’t have enough time to make the film as I would want it to be, and then a bunch of new, smaller contests came up and I wanted to enter some of those and decided not to enter MoB. I might suggest a summer deadline if you decide to hold another contest because this makes it easier for the primary age bracket of this site to complete a film on time. Of course this also means the deadline would be near other summer contests, but I think it’d be worth the tradeoff. For my next two projects I do plan to move away from short and simple to longer films with a more intricate story, so depending on your deadline I might try to enter, even if it meant postponing a film’s release a few months.

I would advise against funding a single project because throwing money at a brickfilm doesn’t necessarily make it good; apart from some fairly pricey equipment and software I already own I typically spend very little on each individual film I make, and aside from buying a few parts occasionally I’m not sure how much funding is needed to create a brickfilm once all the major equipment has been purchased. I think if the prize makes entering worthwhile (IMO the MoB prize did), you’ll get a group of films made by motivated filmmakers instead of just one film if there aren’t a lot of conflicts with other contests.

-Smeagol

January 13, 2008 at 3:21 am #361052
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Leonardo812

I second every word that Smeagol just said.
Definitely a second MOB.
Hopefully with a summer deadline.

January 13, 2008 at 4:19 am #361061
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Lechnology

I’d give it a longer deadline, like December of 2009 and have the contest start now. 2008 would be focus on writing and then at the start of 2009, participants would have to have a script ready by then or have already started making their MoB entry. And perhaps to insure more entries, participants should make MoB their top priority.

I’m disappointed that only 3 entries were made for the first MoB. I would like to see more if another MoB contest started.

As for funding a film…well, there’s Super, but we’re pretty well covered with the dedication members have for it.

January 13, 2008 at 4:19 am #361062
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NickMOC

I really wanted to enter the first MoB, but by the time that I noticed it, it was already the deadline to say that you are entering, and I knew I couldn’t make the deadline. A second MoB would be awesome, and I would consider entering.

January 13, 2008 at 4:24 am #361064
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“Lechnology” wrote: I’d give it a longer deadline, like December of 2009

I had every intention of a December 2009 deadline, as my first post mentions. ;)

“prof1515″ wrote: …a similar, though likely longer given the present date, deadline.

January 13, 2008 at 4:34 am #361065
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“Smeagol” wrote: I might suggest a summer deadline if you decide to hold another contest because this makes it easier for the primary age bracket of this site to complete a film on time.

Ultimately, it’s unlikely an entire film in MoB is going to be made in a summer. The deadline is far less important than the amount of time to work on it. A deadline of December 2009 would afford two complete summers and a December holiday season.

Of course this also means the deadline would be near other summer contests, but I think it’d be worth the tradeoff.

I’d prefer not to interfere with the other contests and draw attention away from them. Each contest deserves their moment in the spotlight and the films in them a chance to be watched and appreciated before another handful of films open a second contest.

I would advise against funding a single project because throwing money at a brickfilm doesn’t necessarily make it good

Well, there are other things I can contribute besides just money. While it’s been some time since did anything in the realm of film (hard to believe more than a decade has passed…seems like yesterday), I don’t think I’m too rusty in some aspects of making a film outside of animating itself (which I learned back then that I just didn’t enjoy and the thought of doing has thus far deterred me from making a brickfilm). Writing has always been a talent of mine and if I can motivate myself to do so, I might rewrite those screenplays I lost last summer. Many of them were unsuitable for anything but animation given the budgetary restraints of a live-action short.

-J

January 13, 2008 at 5:34 am #361075
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ahnt

Well just an opinion:
I am not a professional here, I just do brickfilming for my own enjoyment. And one of the important things doing it is, that once in a while I need the feeling of acomplishment and success. Making a film for two years in a row without any intermitting feedback would probably simply too long. One year is already pretty long…

I know from work that I can endure much longer periods without any success, but that is work, not recreation…

Another thing:
What was the initial goal? I guess encouraging people to make better brickfilms. And better means essentially deeper in terms of story, characters, and entertainment. Right? And the essence of that is scriptwriting, good voice actors and good music. And to learn that/ to do so, at least I need to exchange that, a contest is somewhat counterproductive since I have to do everything in secret. The idea that I have is something like a open skript project, or maybe a MoB that requires community projects. I know this sounds strange but maybe we can discuss this and add brainstorming to it?

Cheers Arend

January 13, 2008 at 5:43 am #361079
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Lechnology

“ahnt” wrote: The idea that I have is something like a open s[c]ript project, or maybe a MoB that requires community projects.

“Lechnology” wrote: …well, there’s Super

January 13, 2008 at 6:18 am #361089
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“Lechnology” wrote: [quote="ahnt"]The idea that I have is something like a open s[c]ript project, or maybe a MoB that requires community projects.

“Lechnology” wrote: …well, there’s Super

[/quote]

I thought that one is already closed?

January 13, 2008 at 6:20 am #361091
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Dave

Well… considering the fact that I’m spending almost all of the next 3.5 years down at SCAD without my Lego.. I will probably not be able to participate, unless, of course, I do one during one of the summers.

-Dave

January 13, 2008 at 6:25 am #361094
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“ahnt” wrote: [quote="Lechnology"][quote="ahnt"]The idea that I have is something like a open s[c]ript project, or maybe a MoB that requires community projects.

“Lechnology” wrote: …well, there’s Super

[/quote]

I thought that one is already closed?[/quote]Quoi? Then what the hell am I doing posting daily in our project forum? :what?:

No, ahnt, it is not.

January 13, 2008 at 6:30 am #361096
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Schlockading

I think the problem with this type of contest is that, although the initiative and basis behind it is excellent, people just aren’t going to be able to complete this caliber of film, no matter what the deadline. Look at the entries for this contest, for example. Sure, they’re good, but probably nowhere close to what you had in mind with the inception of the contest back in September 2006. Setting a longer deadline won’t necessarily yield more entries.

I honestly don’t know what to say to make more people make these types of films. Maybe you could do something like “release a five-minute segment every six months” or something like that. This way, more people may view it as making several short segments in a row instead of having to tackle one large task that could be discouraging or just not doable. In my instance, I would have been working on my film a lot more, but school and things got in the way. Even if the deadline is made for another two years from now, I still might not get anything done. But that’s just me. It’s simply that the art of brickfilming isn’t easily open to this type of endeavor on a regular basis.

January 13, 2008 at 6:31 am #361098
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I believe ahnt meant “Closed to additional participation,” Lech. The main thread is labeled [CLOSED], after all.

And I will be in a situation very similar to Dave’s in about six months, just replace SCAD with San Jose State University.

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