December 16, 2007 at 9:24 pm #353831
That’s not a rule though, LegosJedi. And neither is it always put in place. This caption, while in spoilers, does not give a warning. This one isn’t in spoilers at all. (To Robert Douchette and 34643464: it’s nothing personal or anything; I’m just trying to show my point.)
Relying on people’s common sense in order to keep things child safe isn’t a good idea on the internet.December 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm #354040
I bet Guitar man votes for you…December 17, 2007 at 6:40 pm #354105
Based on the arrogance you have brought to this community I doubt anybody ‘ll be voting for you.
-AledDecember 17, 2007 at 7:03 pm #354112
“Legoman182182″ wrote: I bet Guitar man votes for you…
Why?December 17, 2007 at 7:18 pm #354120
He seems to approve of the “if we don’t punish them they won’t do it” approach…December 18, 2007 at 12:15 am #354239
“Aled Owen” wrote: Based on the arrogance you have brought to this community I doubt anybody ‘ll be voting for you.
Thanks for your great insight.December 18, 2007 at 5:04 pm #354365
-AledDecember 19, 2007 at 11:50 am #354584
“BertL” wrote: That’s not a rule though, LegosJedi. And neither is it always put in place. This caption, while in spoilers, does not give a warning. This one isn’t in spoilers at all. (To Robert Douchette and 34643464: it’s nothing personal or anything; I’m just trying to show my point.)
Relying on people’s common sense in order to keep things child safe isn’t a good idea on the internet.
Thank you, Bert.
As Bert said, it isn’t a rule – and brianfast obviously has no intention of making it so. Plus, if it’s there, in a spoiler tag, there’s nothing to prevent a 11/12 year old from clicking it. In fact, if there is a content warning, that’s honestly only going to pique curiosity and nearly ensure that they’re going to click it.
While, an 11/12 year old is developing into someone who should be responsible for their own actions, and decisions and keeping their minds and hearts untainted by bad content, they aren’t there yet psychologically, or developmentally.
That’s like saying “If we put a button next to this knife that we leave on the table that says ‘Don’t touch the knife’ when you push it, then that will deter the toddler.”
If we’re going to continue to allow 11/12 year olds on the forum (It’s a brickfilming forum, based on lego animation…It’d be a bit unrealistic to ban them or disallow them, even though technically you have to agree to a 13+ terms before joining the forum or have parental permission.) then doesn’t it seem reasonable to tailor the forum to that admission? Adults and older members are completely capable of restraining themselves from using bad language or adult content. It’s not going to hurt them at all, to refrain from making those references here. (There are adult forums that they can go to, if they’re so dead-set on using language.)
On the other hand, it is going to hurt children for them to repeatedly see those references and that language here. My 11-year old brother wouldn’t even know what the F-word meant if he heard it. While, not all 11 year olds are this innocent (which is unfortunate) we can’t go on the assumption that ‘modern culture has corrupted them, so we have no responsibility.’
I’m not even saying they’ve never heard these things before, but do we really want to reiterate them, and make it ‘okay’ for children to say these things in any situation? Do we honestly want the standard set so low?
I am the first to say that I don’t always keep my language clean, but I do try – especially on brickfilms, and in chat. (And around my siblings, at home.) If I need to rant, I talk to a friend, or leave the house, or go off by myself to use bad language.
Is it so burdensome to keep adult content out of a forum whose members start as young as 9/10? It is *necessary* to have language and sexual content in a forum about stop motion animation and lego’s at all?
I don’t want to see twelve and thirteen year olds excessively using language without batting an eye, and I certainly don’t want to contribute to something like that. (Personally, or as a forum.) Nor is it pleasant to hear kids so young talking so knowledgeably about ‘adult content’, despite the fact that most of them have absolutely no basis of experience…that just sets them up with the belief that it’s okay, and even expected, that they have these experiences as soon as possible.
While yes, perhaps a few people get a kick out of using bad language on the forum. For most it’s more a product of habit.
You seem to have very naive opinions on discipline/consequences/moderation. The definition of moderation is everything in a reasonable quantity.
“dictionary.com – Moderate” wrote: kept or keeping within reasonable or proper limits; not extreme, excessive, or intense: a moderate price.
How much experience do you have in child development to be able to talk on these things so authoritatively? How many children have you raised, or helped in raising? Or even had a significant part as an authority in their lives. (Babysitter once a week, helping out at a daycare, mentoring, whatever?)
-TrillDecember 19, 2007 at 11:40 pm #354826
I think that such “offensive language” should be labeled as such and in a spoiler. But I’m not going to stop anyone from posting it in a spoiler or punish anyone for posting something offensive in a properly labeled spoiler.December 20, 2007 at 9:02 am #354942
Clearly you read all the posts in the forums too. Excellent. I like that in a candidate for MoD.
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