Winter '08 – saulgoode for Minister of Film Contests

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December 17, 2007 at 3:48 pm #354035
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saulgoode

If I am elected to the position of Minister of Film Contests then I shall endeavor to make that Ministry fulfill its primary role: providing support and encouragement to the community of Brickfilms.com in their brickfilming activities.

With that goal in mind, I would work to implement the following changes:

Forum Restructuring

  • The “Official Contests” forum will be renamed back to its original “Contests and Film Festivals” and the “Unofficial Contests and Film Festivals” forum will be renamed to “Contest Proposals and Discussion”. Contests will not need to be sponsored by Brickfilms.com in order to be listed in the “Contests and Film Festivals” forum, but they will need to be well-organized, fairly administered, and recognized by (but not necessarily endorsed by) Brickfilms.com as being of interest to our community. (Official Brickfilms.com contests will be stickied and denoted as such in their thread title.)

    The “Contest Proposals and Discussion” forum will be provided for brainstorming contest ideas and working out the details such as rules, scheduling, judging, et cetera.

Organizers Usergroup

  • I would have a new usergroup created whereby interested members could assist in the planning and administration of contests, plus the recruitment of sponsors. This usergroup would have a private forum available for times when such discussions should not be publicized (for example, when pursuing a corporate sponsorship of a prize).

    Another aspect of this usergroup will be to organize (and track) the procurement and ultimate dispensation of prizes. Members and outside interests have shown a willingness in the past to donate prizes and there needs to be assistance available to handle this generosity.

Contest Promotion

  • The Minister of Film Contests would be given authorization to post announcements of contests and film festivals on the News page and the Events page. Contest organizers will be encouraged to create a Contest page in the Brickfilms Encyclopedia.

    In addition, diligent maintenance of the aforementioned contest forums will help to assure that members are aware of the status of active contests and approaching deadlines. Active contests and film festivals will be stickied, and outdated ones will, of course, be unstickied.

If I am elected, there will be contests at Brickfilms.com and there will be a support system put in place to not only hold “official” contests, but to provide guidance and promotion for contests not directly sponsored by Brickfilms.

Edited for grammar.

December 17, 2007 at 3:53 pm #354038
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maggosh

Correct me if I’m wrong, saulgoode, but it seems you have failed to answer three questions from the guidelines page. I only see two.

December 17, 2007 at 4:55 pm #354070
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chosen1

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t think anyone made you the police of this forum? If the administrator has issue with this I am sure he will address it.

December 17, 2007 at 5:00 pm #354073
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Rsteenoven

I like the seperate usergroup, and I would love to contribute to that

So you have my support.

December 17, 2007 at 5:37 pm #354079
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maggosh

My apologies, chosen1.

saulgoode, you seem like a worthy competitor. I wish you luck.

December 17, 2007 at 5:39 pm #354081
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Lord_Of_The_LEGO

This and last year Brickfilms.com was engorged with too many official, semi-official and unofficial contests (IDEA, Nadine and Charlie, EASTER, MoB, countless unofficial ones), which limited and harmed all of the contests because of participant exhaustion and overload. Will you adopt a policy of limiting the number of contests each year and if not, why?

December 17, 2007 at 7:59 pm #354147
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MindGame

I’ll ask you the same question that I asked maggosh:

As Minister, how would you handle the IDEA prizes? Richardfrost has yet to select a third prize, and our current minister has been MIA for some time now. If you were elected, what would you do to rectify this?

-MindGame

December 17, 2007 at 8:41 pm #354169
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saulgoode

Maggosh, I wish you well in your campaign. Despite a few differences that I see in our platforms, I congratulate you on your willingness to assist in administering Brickfilms.

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LOTL, I completely disagree with your assessment of there having been too many contests over the last couple of years. Nor do I accept your attributing any lack of participation to such an alleged overabundance. Instead, I feel the deficiency has been in the embarrassingly low level of support, promotion, and guidance that has been provided by those whose administrative duties should include these very activities.

It is NOT my intent to limit brickfilming contests to just one a year. Nor is it my intent to discourage those who wish to hold a contest from doing so. It IS my intent to provide support, coordination, and promotion to those who do decide to hold contests in these forums.

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MindGame, I would, of course, see resolution of any such problems as a critical duty of the Minister of Film Contests; however, I don’t feel comfortable providing a specific solution without knowledge of the planning by those who were involved with handling that contest. I will promise to pursue this issue without delay, should I be elected.

December 17, 2007 at 9:03 pm #354179
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Lord_Of_The_LEGO

That is unfortunate. I am unsure now if I will submit a ballot for Minister of Film Contests at all, for I remain unsatisfied with all of the available candidates for this position.

December 17, 2007 at 9:20 pm #354186
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Shale

How do you feel about time limits for official contests?

Also, if I were to post a contest, would I automatically have to put it in the “Contest Proposals and Discussion” forum even if I already had all the details and prizes worked out?

December 17, 2007 at 10:10 pm #354199
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saulgoode

“Shale” wrote: How do you feel about time limits for official contests?

Rules should never be arbitrarily instituted. They should be justified as contributing to the goals of the contest or the fairness of the competition. If a goal of a contest is to see how much story a filmmaker can compress into a brief duration, a time limit is certainly justified. Barring that, I would not particularly concede that a fifteen-minute brickfilm holds any competitive edge over a five-minute brickfilm.

I don’t particularly see a need for a maximum time limit, contests with only a month or so notice would not afford an animator time for an extended film and the more major contests (such as HaV and IDEA) should be offering the filmmaker enough time to tell his story.

“Shale” wrote: Also, if I were to post a contest, would I automatically have to put it in the “Contest Proposals and Discussion” forum even if I already had all the details and prizes worked out?

No one will be prevented from posting in the “Contest and Film Festivals” forum, however, it will be moderated and inappropriate threads moved to the “Proposals and Discussion” forum. This is to allow for the announcement of film festivals and contests being held outside of Brickfilms.com (such as the Steinerei).

If you have all your ducks in a row, you may post in the “Contests and Film Festival” but I would hope that you’d notify me first. I do not plan to dictate how or when your contest should be run (it is my goal to support those who wish to hold contests) but it would prove helpful to coordinate the scheduling and perhaps in some instances consolidate two different contests into a single event. At the very least, by contacting me ahead of time we can ensure that your thread is not moved and consider it for stickied status.

December 17, 2007 at 10:30 pm #354207
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Smeagol

I think you seem like a good man for the job, and I agree that the contests were not well-promoted. However I do think that the large number of contests detracted from the official ones. Assuming that the unofficial contests are properly supported and publicized, would you consider only one major official Brickfilms contest a year in an effort to improve participation and prizes? Most of the recent contests have had virtually the same prizes such that the amount of interest in them has steeped off with IDEA. Not to mention that IDEA prizes have yet to be awarded because both of the last two people put in charge of them have left the site.

-Smeagol, who liked Watson’s platform but wonders where he went.

December 17, 2007 at 10:32 pm #354208
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Lechnology

“Lord_Of_The_LEGO” wrote: That is unfortunate. I am unsure now if I will submit a ballot for Minister of Film Contests at all, for I remain unsatisfied with all of the available candidates for this position.

Keep in mind that in the end, it is up to the animator to decide whether or not to participate in these contests. N&C, THAC, the annual March-June Contest, these are pretty standard and you’re not obligated to participate in all of them, unless it is your imperative to partake in all contests every year.

To me, that justifies Saul’s approach.

December 17, 2007 at 10:41 pm #354210
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Schlockading

I like your ideas, saul. In my opinion, the main problem with the contest forums and contests in general is that it is unorganized. This in turn is what is causing lack of enthusiasm towards entering contests. Better running of even the small contests is what we really need, and it seems like that’s what you’re going to do if elected. Sounds good to me.

December 18, 2007 at 5:13 pm #354367
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saulgoode

“Smeagol” wrote: However I do think that the large number of contests detracted from the official ones.

The highest participation for official contests occurred back in 2003-4 when three major contests were run within a 10-month period (I didn’t include the Ten Brick Contest, but if you wish to consider it a major contest then make that “four contests in 14 months”). In the three years since, each of the annual contests have respectively seen 9, 13, and 10 entries (not really supportive of a trend either way). Exactly which time period in the history of Brickfilms are we supposed to examine in order to find support for your claim?

A distinguishing factor which actually exists between those early contests and the more recent ones is that those early contests provided some nice awards such as the Audience Choice Awards and The Sisters Awards which were seen as accessible to a wider range of entrants, even if they felt their story, equipment, free time, or skill might not provide much expectation of winning overall. This was the motivational and inspirational feature which, when removed, resulted in less participation — not some revisionist history that there was greater participation back in a non-existent time when there were supposedly fewer contests.

It would be my goal as Minister of Film Contests to re-institute the idea that Brickfilms contests are for ALL members, not just a dozen or so entrenched veterans annually vying for the title of High Priest of Brickfilms. Yet I would be reluctant to do this with the annual, summer, major, official, “convention” contest.

I happen to think that FIG, HAV, and IDEA have fulfilled the goals which those contests have assumed. In each case, a dozen or so high-quality films have been submitted which were enough to support the needs of offering a showcase for the ambassadors to the respective “Brick” conventions and providing material for a DVD. I shouldn’t mind seeing more entries for the “annual” contest, but I don’t think that is the problem crying out to be solved by the Minister of Film Contests — and even it were, I reject that the solution would be the suppression of other contests.

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